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its-summertime 6 minutes ago [-]
> Five of the most dangerous words in startups are “¿Por qué no los dos?”.
So are the prior products going to be shut down? If not, then when? if not when, then why not?
subarctic 1 hours ago [-]
Saw this on my RSS feed and was surprised to see it hasn't been discussed yet on HN - fly.io used to be on the front page pretty regularly with some pretty big comment threads, but I had to go back over a year to find anything from them with more than a handful of comments. I guess they've become less relevant on here since they stopped allowing new users to host apps for free?
jagged-chisel 30 minutes ago [-]
Did they? I have stuff I launched in the last two months that’s still under the $5 limit and haven’t paid a thing.
subarctic 19 minutes ago [-]
Oh ok i thought they charged a flat fee to use the platform now but maybe that was a temporary thing. My account is a few years old so i wouldn't know, i still have a few apps running on the smallest vm size and it's always under $5
rileymichael 10 minutes ago [-]
they lost a lot of aura among folks i know with the 'ai skeptics are nuts' article[1]. haven't read a blog post since.
Good discussion on the HN thread about that article. To be honest, based on the latest models and agentic engineering, that blog post is definitely right. It's not 2023, 2024, or 2025 anymore, agents have gotten a lot better.
its-summertime 2 minutes ago [-]
I think the effect was less about it being correct or not, but instead more about if fly.io would treat humans as first class users compared to agents or not in the future.
The message is fine, but it was a weird choice to have it on fly.io instead of a personal blog
simonw 3 minutes ago [-]
Yeah, I think that post from June 2025 has aged pretty well. The Coding Agent revolution hadn't really happened at that point (Claude Code was only ~4 months old) so the paraphrased message "this stuff is actually useful for programming, saying it's all just stochastic parrots misses the mark" was still non-obvious to a whole lot of people.
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hedgehog 21 minutes ago [-]
It's probably getting less discussion because there's less user energy, the existing VM / database product has clearly not been a top focus for a while and in any case that business is becoming even more of a tough commodity for the reasons the post points out.
enraged_camel 10 minutes ago [-]
I think they became less relevant, at least amongst human users, when they hit a particularly rough patch with awful reliability issues a couple of years back. At least that's when my own social circle and loose constellation of developer acquaintances started saying "we should probably avoid Fly.io".
dyauspitr 15 minutes ago [-]
No one talks about new software anymore. All the conversation is meta about LLMs that write software instead. This is a dead career, I’m just waiting for the LLMs to start writing code in binary.
dyauspitr 23 minutes ago [-]
Is tptacek still over there? If so, thoughts?
clint 33 minutes ago [-]
Congrats on quitting!
pizzafeelsright 5 minutes ago [-]
Well, fuck. ... we raised a fuckload of money and didn’t need more. And if we fail, we fail with our full asses.
I have seen this language from other companies to which I say "no". Being professional means being able to do good work, being polite, without lying, cheating, or stealing.
I do not want them to fail yet I would never use them despite liking their product. A few other companies behave the same way.
So are the prior products going to be shut down? If not, then when? if not when, then why not?
[1] https://fly.io/blog/youre-all-nuts/
The message is fine, but it was a weird choice to have it on fly.io instead of a personal blog
I have seen this language from other companies to which I say "no". Being professional means being able to do good work, being polite, without lying, cheating, or stealing.
I do not want them to fail yet I would never use them despite liking their product. A few other companies behave the same way.